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    VISA Advice Including ILR, APPEALS, CITIZENSHIP

    Post  Admin on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:36 pm

    For all your up-to-date visa advice; from visit visas, fiance, settlement, business, au pair, marriage etc...to ILR and Citizenship - here's the place to go:

    http://www.immigrationboards.com/


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    Post  Turkishheartdrop on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:49 pm

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    Post  Teenz on Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:18 pm



    Did you know Gemsgirl ruby?

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    Post  Guest on Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:53 am

    Hello Teenz

    The answer to your question is 'no', I did not know Gemsgirl and never had any dealings with her whatsoever. I live near to the West Midlands area, in fact, when the OISC (The Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner) first came into being back in 1999, I attended one of their introductory courses on the Hagley Road in Birmingham. (By the way, the OISC does not provide immigration advice or recommend or endorse a specific adviser, however, it will prosecute those who operate outside of the law and it REGULATES immigration advisers rather like the Legal Services Commission regulates and audits legal advice in whichever category a client is seeking advice).

    It therefore beggars belief that Gemsgirl managed to get away with all the bad advice she gave out without being prosecuted, some of the weekly disposable income figures she quoted TL members I think she made up as she went along, they were more guesstimates. I did notice towards to end a 'Disclaimer' was placed on the Visa Forum on TL on the lines that any advice is not to be taken as a replacement for seeking professional legal advice from an Immigration Solicitor.

    From what I gather, Gemsgirl claimed to have offices in or near to Birmingham and a team of people working for her, I did a search and never came up with any such office simply because it did not exist, it was a figment of her imagination.

    As I have said before, any advice I give cannot replace that of an Immigration Solicitor and I do not charge. The rules relating to UK Immigration Advice in Turkey are totally different, and therefore, the advice given there was on the basis that the first interview was free because 9/10 potential UK visa seekers were non starters and I did not want to waste my time or their time giving them false hope. Best to be honest and tell them what the odds are, then it is up to them to decide whether they want to go ahead or not. In order to make a successful application, it needs to be absolutely perfect, as if the ECO throws it out, then you either have to go through the whole application again and address the issues as to why it was refused, or appeal. Both options are extremely stressful. My advice to anyone applying for a Visa which is a stressful enough process, is to get it right first time around.

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    Post  Admin on Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:47 pm

    Hi Ruby,

    Gemsgirl's real name was Janet (no, she isn't the Janet who runs TL.....) Anyway, as you know, Gemsgirl (Janet) was not a solicitor - and she was not an immigration advisor, either. She tripped herself up spectacularly when she made out she was a solicitor AND a member of the OISC! For members who don't know, the OISC is a regulating body for IMMIGRATION ADVISORS. A qualified solicitor would not need - or be required - to become a member of the OISC. That would be like a qualified medical doctor signing up to do a first aid course, and sticking his certificate up in his consulting rooms. cyclops

    So when Gemsgirl said she was a member of OISC she made herself look a total idiot. As it happens, she was not even a qualified immigration advisor - she was not a member of the OISC. I checked out her fairystory - even though I knew from Day One that she was NOT a solicitor or immigration advisor. It was so obvious she wasn't! She didn't have a CLUE about most visa issues - and she knew nothing about law! I remember telling her how much our solicitor charged for a consultation and she nearly fll throught the floor ; yet those prices I gave her are standard.

    But besides all that, it was obvious she wasn't a solictor, and with her own company, too! Haha! Solicitors charge a fortune, and no way would they spend precious hours of their TIME posting up crap on a silly Yuku site! They'd be too busy for one thing - and they certainly wouldn't dish out free advice to a bunch of Yuku members! As it happens, all the correct advice Gemsgirl posted up was what she'd Googled and copied. Anyone can Google up reams of advice from the UKBA - and the biggest joke of all was SHE herself didn't understand much of what it meant! Razz

    There's a member on TL who truly thought Gemsgirl was the real deal - and followed some of her VERY BAD advice. It was shocking. I know that Gemsgirl used to PM several members offering to help them...and many of them fell for it. They'd send her all their details (which in itself is such a risk!) and I've no idea how much money she conned out of them for her 'services'. One member believed Gemsgirl was actually representing her! She never met Gemsgirl, and when I pointed out that it was strange Gemsgirl couldn't provide details of where her office was, she said she was dealing with the member's case from home!

    The most appalling thing is how Sirin tried to worm her way out of the deception by saying she had seen Gemsgirl's details - but wouldn't say what they were! Why not I wonder? Who's SIRIN to withold imformation from members?! Who does she think she is?! She was duty bound to tell her members what Gemsgirl's qualifications were (if she'd really seen them) but she didn't - and couldn't - because she hadn't actually seen them. She was LYING and pretending she'd seen them. Gemsgirl was a FAKE! And she played on the fact that Sirin is a mad pretentious fruitcake who rather liked the deluded idea that a genuine, qualified solicitor would be a member of her silly little Yuku site.

    Sirin was very much more involved in Gemsgirl's deception than members realise, but like all the other unsavoury things that have gone on in the past, Sirin has swept them under the carpet. And had it not been for my posting Gemsgirl's PM's up, I dare say she would still be dishing out advice on there now! And don't forget - Sirin only banned Gemsgirl because of what she'd said about HER! She didn't give a hoot that she was a lying con-artist!

    The whole mucky business was disgraceful!

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    Post  Turkishheartdrop on Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:49 pm

    That is well out of order and I can't blame members for being angry and livid that the manager allowed that to go on. Do members still speak to Sirin? I would be furious with her. Evil or Very Mad

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    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:03 am

    I know a lot of people on settlement visas worry about obtaining ILR (which will eventually be changed to a period of probationary citizenship lasting anything between 1-5 years). I have to say never have I seen a person who has children settled in the UK and he/she on a settlement visa be deported, whether the marriage breaks down or due to redundancy. Under Article 8 of The Human Rights Act, a person on a settlement visa has a right to a family life. Thought this info may reassure anyone who is going through the ILR process at the moment.

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    Post  Teenz on Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:36 am

    well of course Sirin would love Gemsgirl to be past history, but it isn't ever going to be the case for the many members that was conned by her, by giving the very personal letters detailing their relationships, the finances, the future husbands details that they was supposed to be sending to a Goverment agency and not to some random woman taking the piss out of them.

    Then theres the ones that felt her help should have a financial reward, Sirin knows that happened too! Evil or Very Mad

    For a site admin like Sirin to let that happen is unforgivable really and for it to happen in the first instance and then over many months without any questions being asked is near impossible. anyone involved in that site must have know that the members where being taken for a ride but didn't act, and the posts from Gemsgirl didnt even hold back on the contempt she felt for them all either.

    Yes Strawbs the only way Gemsgirl got banned wasn't for conning a hundred or so women but by posting unkind truths. Its so caring good to know they have their priorities Twisted Evil

    I think it wasn't because of Sirins name that came up but because the other mods names came up, Sirin was in cahoots with Gemsgirl all along either by gaining herself somehow or just getting a sick kick out of it! her posts protected her until it was impossible to carry on.












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    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:04 am

    A couple of issues you mentioned Teenz makes me wonder who is running the asylum over there.

    There was the incident with Gemsgirl, you have a nut named JennyWrites who threatens to 'take you out' referring to Judith and again JennyWrites calls her father an unmentionable name and the thread title is simply moderated by taking out the offending word. Now the question is:- What is it that these two women have to offer that site that allowed, and in fact still does allow JennyWrites to post? Their Moderation Policy is not worth the space it is written on.

    The other issue is that of money, was anyone receiving a backhander from Gemsgirl? Yet it slipped out when MSN was closing down its sites that EGOT's would move and Rachel would charging each member an annual subscription fee.

    Very fishy indeed.

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    Post  Admin on Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:47 pm

    Hi Teenz,

    I understand Sirin thought in all probability that some members were sending money to Gemsgirl? Yet she knew Gemsgirl was giving out wrong advice and couldn't back her claims up of being an immigration advisor...........

    It gets worse.........

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    Post  Teenz on Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:33 pm


    Hi Strawbs

    It really couldn't get much worse and stupidly Sirin Still paints herself as a decent person when she should hang her head in shame, Now The members on that site really need to ask some questions like why on earth would a decent careing person that had a site dedicated to women in turkish relationships have a dispicable liar and cheat that virtually took over a the visa section whith the managers ok and do something that by law has a very high chance of recieving a custodial sentence if it was reported to the autorities.

    To have a member really be fooled into thinking Gemsgirl was acting as a barrister for a member and to know she was also charging money show she is incredibly cruel and is indeed a part of this deception.





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    Post  Maria on Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:01 am

    Sirin sounds ever so devious No I guess that's why she hasn't banned you Teenz, she wants to make out she doesn't read this forum................she knows every titbit on here. I bet she'd love to ban you really but she can't PMSL!!!!! She is a right twisted nutter. I would stay away from the woman.

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    Post  Admin on Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:59 am

    Hi Tina,

    Oh Sirin defintely has a case to answer. It seems there's a whole can of worms slowly opening....

    I suspect the reason she allowed Gemsgirl to deceive the members, and take money from them under false pretences was that she liked the idea of people believing she had a 'qualified immigration solicitor' on her silly little Yuku site. As if!! Oh please! She LIED and watched as her members went like lambs to the slaughter. Revolting woman. No wonder she's besty mates with that obese freak, Lindsay Norman.

    Sirin needs investigating.......

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    Post  Teenz on Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:51 pm


    Go to one of the first post on TL when Gemsgirl has a bit of a go at the 2 members after they started reqesting info from her after her sweeping statement about givin advice and knocking the establishment (a real lawyer would never had done that btw) plus one of those members was invited to give visa advice on the boards and had been helping members for years, You would have thought Sirin would have felt very protective about a member like that?

    The sweet welcome at the end from Sirin is very telling, now thats not your usual behaviour when some stranger comes onto a site and starts kicking off? Shocked We all know the usual reply if that happens is a firm warning and definately not a gushing welcome.

    It looks like sirin wanted to palm the way for Gemsgirl even at that early point. So she knew exactly who she was and more importantly what she wasn't No


    Finally we all know how they love to hide behind a alias so i wonder who Gemsgirl was? who ever she was She was very warped and very sneaky and a pal of Sirins.






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    Post  Admin on Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:24 pm

    Maria wrote:Sirin sounds ever so devious No I guess that's why she hasn't banned you Teenz, she wants to make out she doesn't read this forum................she knows every titbit on here. I bet she'd love to ban you really but she can't PMSL!!!!! She is a right twisted nutter. I would stay away from the woman.

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    Oh, you're spot on THERE! OF COURSE she reads this site (avidly!) and I bet she's seeeeeeeething that she can't ban Teenz! Haha! The mad stout midget must be hopping! bounce Oh, slightly off-topic, but I see she's fretting about Thomas Cook cancelling their hotel booking. Oh dear. WHAT'S FOR YOU WON'T PASS YOU BY - as Jan's mate, Obese Mrs Pauline Turtle likes to say, so Sirin should calm down and realise this was meant to happen! tongue

    She should have flown First Class with BA and booked into a swanky luxurious hotel - it wouldn't have passed her by then! Haha! Ooooh, she's so unwordly that she believes Thomas Cook will pay her hotel bill! Like hell they will! They've offered her a replacement - that's enough as far as TC are concerned. At a push they may compensate her for the room - which means they'll give her about £21! She obviously doesn't know the big tour operators only pay about £3 a night for each room they block book! Ooooh, I can see Mr Bouffant's strained expression right now at the thought of opening his little clutch purse and paying his half for a room. He'll go boss-eyed with anger! cyclops

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    Post  Turkishheartdrop on Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:29 pm

    That's true. The big TO's pay a piddly amount to hotels so she will get a piddly refund if any. Why does she keep going to Turkey? It's much the same all over in lots of ways. I work in the travel industry and 99 times out of a hundred the people who return to the same place year after year are the lower classes and those that only started going abroad in their 20s or 30s. A survey was done and it's online somewhere, its very interesting and does make sense if you study it.


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    Post  Admin on Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:59 pm

    Hi THD,

    I can believe that about same-type travellers returning to the same place time and time again. Anyway, it looks like the stout beady-eyed midget didn't get her way, despite her insistence that TC upgrade their hotel and pay for it! That's what she and the mean Mr Bouffant were after! I bet his eyes watered as he had to tug his credit card out of his little neat purse to pay extra for a semi-decent hotel. I can almost hear him groaning and grimacing..... Of course, the mad midge would have paid her half, anyway - like she always has to. tongue

    You know, there's something very strange about her trip. She said they were going to stay near Istanbul for the straight brother's wedding (funny SHE never had a wedding ceremony with his family isn't it? Suspect ) anyway, she said they were spending time there and then going down to Cesme. Well, Cesme is a fair old distance from Istanbul (you'd need to fly to Izmir) yet she seems to be going straight to Cesme? Maybe I've missed something? Suspect I thought Bouffant's father disliked her intensely - so much so - he refuses to even SEE her. So how is she attending the straight brother's wedding? (I'm assuming the brother is straight....it's unusual to have TWO gay brothers.....)

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    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:54 am

    I too was under the impression that the wedding was somewhere near to Istanbul and that was their first port of call, then they were off to holiday in Cesme.

    All very strange, maybe the wedding has been called off I love you If not, I wonder if her father in law will attend the wedding?

    I do have a direct number to Thomas Cook, a very nice man at TC gave it to me when I was due to fly and the ash cloud caused chaos last year. There is nothing more annoying than waiting for 30 mins on the phone listening to the drowning sound of shit so called music, now if I fly with them and want to add extra baggage, I just call up my guy and get it sorted. Sugar always gets you further than lemons. Very Happy

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    Post  Admin on Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:34 pm

    Sickly Sirin isn't (AHEM!!) truthful, though, is she?! She suggests and evades when telling her tales.

    She eludes to things that don't actually exist. I'm sure Oz's brother is getting married somewhere near Istanbul, but I can't see the mean Mr Bouffant spending money on a return flight from Izmir to attend it. Besides, no-one would do that : they'd first fly to Istanbul - attend the wedding - and then make their way down to Cesme. So something doesn't add up. The only thing I can think is that the mean beady-eyed Bouffant did his sums, and worked out that it would be cheaper for them to fly direct with their package holiday charter to Izmir, and then take the BUS up to Istanbul for the wedding! OUCH!! cyclops

    Some gadget-loving, flashy 'engineer; he is! Haha! No flying direct to Istanbul, then after the wedding flying down to Izmir. Just bus it - there and back from Cesme...save some pennies....eeeew! What mean little plebs they are.....

    Of course, Jan lives in a dreamworld and would like to travel first class (that'll never happen - they can't afford it) and you can just see why the man in customer services became irate with her! I bet she patronised him terribly, and started laying down the law in that whining, grating way of hers.....they even had to tell her to STOP keep phoning them - THEY WOULD TRY AND SORT IT OUT!! I bet she was demanding all sorts of compensation (fat cheap opportunist she is!) and they weren't having it! Exclamation I bet she asked for them to foot the bill for a 5* hotel (even though they'd booked a 2*! Haha! That woman has no shame at all! She REALLY thinks she's Hyacinth Bucket doesn't she! Razz

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    Post  Guest on Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:40 pm

    I would never take the bus from Izmir to Istanbul or visa versa, well at least Oz will have a free 'comfort' cushion for the journey lol!

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    Post  Admin on Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:54 pm

    Actually, the buses in Turkey are very cheap! Amazingly cheap....and they're actually rather good. We took the bus a few times - once to Marmaris, and twice to Antalya. I can't remember exactly how long the trips took, but I think it was in the region of 3.5 hours? That included a 15 minute rest stop for a bite to eat, drink, and the loo. The bus (coach) itself was comfortable and modern, but I couldn't do more than, say, 4 hours on a coach. No way. And I've a feeling Izmir to Istanbul is something like 12 hours? I might be wrong, but I'm sure it is! affraid

    That would be HELL for me!

    Usually, when we travelled around Turkey we'd hire a car for a week or so and do our own thing, but I wouldn't even contemplate driving up to Istanbul from Izmir. It would be a flight or nothing. I guarantee they're taking the bus...all that way....... pale

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    Post  Guveclover on Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:35 am

    We've done Altinkum to Istanbul twice before to get to the consulate and it was appalling on both occasions. Interminable doesn't even begin to cover it. Mad

    Those coaches are fine if you can sleep on them but if you can't you've had it. And the "comfort stops", well, my mouth was agape at the stinking holes that were passing for toilets. Absolutely putrid.

    We only went by coach because we couldn't afford to fly. If we'd had the money there would have been no way in the world we'd ever have caught the coach.

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    Post  Teenz on Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:23 am

    Ive been on one and that wasn't too bad but just for a hour or so, had a nice little man coming around with free water cups.

    Feeling a little sick hearing about the putrid loos. pale
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    Post  Maria on Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:18 am

    Long bus journeys are very tiring....I would never do that trip on my hols....I suppose she's no choice.

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    Post  Boreks on Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:48 am

    I will come with you long journey

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