Copy of Sirins post on TL date 29 MAY 2010
Ok, I feel the need to nip this debate in the bud - no one else on this forum is called to justify who they are. What on earth are we doing running round like this just because a person who is nothing to this forum has aired her personal opinion somewhere else on the internet?
I'm sorry - but I'm not even prepared to justify this with discussing Gem's details. I can confirm that she emailed me her details in September 09 -but you know what? We ALL give information, support and advice to one another, but that's all it is - one person's advice. Plenty of people on here have professional qualifications, but it doesn't make us right all the time, nor do we claim that it does.
With no offence at all to Gem - she is here in the capacity as a member, and gives advice as a member. If people trust that advice, they take personal responsibility for that - just like if they choose to take the advice from anyone else. No one pays to be here, and no one makes any money from the site - so accept it for what it is!
Now, I really would like it if we tried to get back to using the site as a meeting place for mutual support and stopped picking on each other. We've sat back because we don't like to heavily moderate the site - but please can I make an appeal that we all consider the new members who may need the site more than others, and really need to feel that they're not going to be pulled up by other members. What sort of impression does all this make?
Come on guys - if we don't care about people that need help, what are we doing here?
I suggest that a few laughs together in chat wouldn't go amiss, a few lighthearted threads to remind us that we all have a lot in common. We come on here in our freetime - we should be a) enjoying ourselves b) learning something from others or c) helping someone. Life's to short to p'ss around doing anything else !!!
We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are. Anais Nin
DATE 22 august 2010
Keeping you all in the picture.....
Talking about people is not our style as you know, so we gave this some thought before posting - but it's been brought to our attention that a member has been making comments about other members and the moderating team on another site. It's not the first time that we've had concerns about this person raised, but we try not to make rash judgements. I think you'll agree though, that this warranted posting up.
Speaking as a team, we're not overly bothered by what has been said about us(everyone has an opinion!), and I hope other members won't be either, but we wanted you to see this so that you understand why the member has been banned.
If you want to comment, please try to keep it fairly civilised! No need to drop to that level eh?!
*Note - we can't comment on whether or not Gemsgirl is a lawyer / Immigration Advisor, we only had her word for that - so all we can comment on is that we believe the messages to be genuine.
So 29 MAY 2010 Sirin put........ Gem's details. I can confirm that she emailed me her details in September 09
On 25 AUGUST 2010 Sirin put.......*Note - we can't comment on whether or not Gemsgirl is a lawyer / Immigration Advisor, we only had her word for that
In the years that ive been on these sites ive never seen a more deluded woman with a vicious temper, now people will be more relaxed on this site when they post and not scared of her backlash, and normal women that are going through the visa process can support each other and share any information without the rude posts from her or any hidden agenda. she will return under a new username if she isnt a member already, but i hope people are wise to her now.
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Contrary to some people's opinion this isn't a point scoring exercise between 2 sites - believe me we gave up that ghost a long time ago - people got hurt in the crossfire - that is why we are so angry at Gemsgirl who actually knew the history and who possibly hoped to have us at each others throats again.
By writing this post - I want you all to see the bigger picture and to state there is no link between us banning Gemsgirl or the issues we have previously had with Chatters - this is to advise those of you who think somehow Strawberry is more to blame than Gemsgirl or is equally culpable. Strawberry is not a member on this site - therefore has no allegiance to us.
Strawberry is a very astute character and you really have to be on your toes if you decide to either engage with her or slag her off - she quite rightly or wrongly - depending on what side of the fence you sit on - can be very critical on comments and posts which are published on the WWW. Chatters is her site and she can do and say what she likes on there - even if some of us don't - tough cookie it's hers - if you have a hide like a rhino then feel free to ignore the advice.
She can be quite constructive - and brutal in equal measure in some of her comments and she will play a very long waiting game if she thinks you are pulling her chain - she seems to have all the time in the world to drag it out before she goes all out for the jugular - she is by no means a part timer lol - she will defend herself and her opinions 24/7, even if she is wrong - she hates to be wrong and refuses to admit it - probably even under pain of death I surmise.
I in no way endorse or like what she does - we crossed swords a long time ago - and have a long history - she can still have a pop at me every now and again however - I have to admire her tenacity - this is her hobby which she dedicates a lot of time too, and is very good at it. Dissection is her speciality so please ladies if your heart isn't made out of brick - avoid arousing her wrath if possible.
She has a hair trigger and sometimes she does attack someone only to find out she has got the wrong person - she does apologise - but very rarely - so if you happen to be in that minority then its best just to let the storm pass - she won't give you a second thought and will carry on as if nothing happened. She has over the years gathered a fan club who really
hate her and at other times has gained support because of her wit and repartee - I too have found myself laughing out loud at some of her posts - but I have no stomach for some of the things that happen.
Lots of brave souls have as I said dallied with her over the years - some live to tell the tale and bear the scars others fell by the wayside - learn to do what the vast majority of us do - ignore it - she will soon tire if you don't play and move onto even more willing victims who think they can take her on and live to tell the tale.
Morale of the story - I do not want another site war - I cannot be @rsed with the hassle - so there will be no more pops at her on this site - if you have an issue with her then take it up with Da Management on her site which you will be glad to hear ....... is Strawbs herself.
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