Jealous Women

I'm just wondering what your experience is of jealous women? I know that lots of women are disadvantaged in lots of ways : either they're ugly, morbidly obese, or have crappy marriages/relationships, or have come from hardship and a disadvantaged background; maybe they've never had true love or any fun in their lives......there's probably various reasons for their pain. But what makes them become so sour and embittered with someone to the point that they stalk them and follow them - even though they don't even know them?! It's just so weird and sad.

I know they're desperately unhappy women for various different reasons, but I can't understand why they don't try and improve their lives rather than obsessing over a stranger! Jesus, I know of one woman who is terminally ill, yet she spends precious time wasting it on kicking the boot in! How twisted is that?!

I never realised there were so many deeply disturbed and embittered women in the world until I came across these sites.

Strawbs

Strangely enough, my only experiences of jealous women have been on these sites! It all started back on EGOTM when people used to say I was "smug". I think that reading about how my husband behaves sent them green with envy. I'll always remember one of the daft bats saying on some crazy hate site that I was a terrible woman and was depriving my husband of his Turkishness - you really couldn't make it up! Such is the state of their so-called relationships that they can't fathom that in conducting himself as he does my husband is perfectly happy with his life - he's certainly not the sort of man to keep it to himself if he weren't I can assure you!

It seems that reading about how my husband behaves in treating me as an equal, and with respect and consideration, and how he doesn't feel he has the right to call the shots all the time about how our son and I should live our lives, what we should eat and whether our son is allowed to keep his penis intact, and how he doesn't send money back to Turkey habitually to the detriment of the family we have together, drives these crazy women to distraction.

Hi Judith,

Oh, that made me roar when you wrote what that daft bat said: " I was a terrible woman and was depriving my husband of his Turkishness "! Haha! Such an egotty thing to say! Oh, before I continue, some members may have noticed that I deleted three messages posted by three separate members. I had to do that due to the vile content, and for their own sakes. For anyone to wish someone cancer is utterly repelling, and I couldn't keep that sort of thing on here. Of course, they demonstrated perfectly just how jealousy warps some people's minds, but I have to draw the line somewhere. Oh, and just for the record, no - I was not 44 in that article - and the member knows that, too. BUT, people think I look 44 now! Haha! Good genes and all that.......... But I am never really shocked, now, but these fruitbacks remarks, and I understand there are lots of twisted, disturbed characters around who are so filled with the pain of jealousy, that they wish and say the most dreadful of things. As it happens, these insults ricochet off me like a bouncy ball, and have about as much impact on me as a feather falling on my head. Their boring, repetive, same old, same old drab insults have no affect on me whatsoever - I've heard them a thousand times - and am totally inured to them. In fact, I only knew about this remark made by the misfits who wished I had cancer, from another member, who told me on the telephone. So I logged on and deleted the posts without even reading them.

Do you know, I remember watching David Beckham being interviewed on TV a long time ago, and he said how a few so-called 'fans' would shout out the most appaling insults to him, and one time a man screeched out "I hope your son gets cancer!" David Beckham looked disgusted when he repeated that, as did the interviewer, but it just shows you the evilness that flows through some of these wicked, evil misfits. Now, I know I don't look like David Beckham; neither do I have all his money or fame - and I'm a lousy footballer! But I'm still amazed that some women can become so filled with hatred for me - me, a stranger to them - simply becasue they are jealous. I just don't understand it. Happy, contented people NEVER feel healous - of anyone. Even when I sometimes flick through a magazine and see someone like Angelina Jolie relaxing on a luxurious yacht somewhere in the Bahamas or Virgin Islands, I think "Ooooh, how wonderful that must be!" and think how lucky she is to have such fortune. But as soon as I flick the page over I've forgotten about it.

I actually have a theory that these twisted misfits enjoy dwelling on me as they're sat stuck, trapped, in their stuffy, smelly rooms, bashing out all their pain on their keyboard. I think I'm a distraction for them - like an emotional punchbag. And by focusing so much on me they don't have to confront the real-life shit that is their lives - so far better for them that they block that out and think about me instead. Of course, what they REALLY should be doing is going to their local library and taking a self-help book out, such as "How To Improve Your Life And Stop Feeling Jealous Of Others"

I realise that many of these fruitbats are severy disadvanteged in many ways; either they're obese and old before their time, or have a face like a bag of spanners - or they're dirt poor (in many cases all 3!) Well, that's not MY fault! Why should I apologise for being more fortunate than they are?!

Ruby - who will be back next weeek (her PC is playing up in Turkey) told me that she has been following my posts for years, and she thinks I give good advice, which possibly hits a nerve with some people (ouch!) and many of my posts are interesting or amusing and witty. She said those dull, boring members who couldn't hold a candle to me, hate the fact they're drab and invisible, and the only way they can get attention is by screeching like hyenas, and throwing out the most vile insults. Sad isn't it? The fact is, they resent my intellect and wit (when I'm in the mood to write) and they can't answer back with an equally witty response. So instead, they say the most repulsive insults they can dreg up out of their limited brain power. Of course, I know I can be bitchy and take the piss - but that's always when someone is behaving like a total twat, or they're hounding me and asking to be insulted. However, although I do indeed insult them back, I have NEVER, NEVER wished them illnesses, death, or laughed at their tragedies. Neither have I said I was PLEASED someone they loved was killed, and I have never called someone's granddaughter a bastard (which again - is incorrect) To take your venom out on a delightful beautiful young girl is the lowest of the low.

They're also pathalogically jealous of anyone in a successful loving relationship, probably because they've never been loved in their whole lives. These are very damaged individuals, and they need intense therapy to help them come to terms with their disadvantages in life, and should try and improve their lives by moving on and concentrating on THEMSELVES - rather than me.

I realise that many of them are in the most deprived circumstances possible, and their only hope of finding a man (and man) is to buy one. All of their men are using spongers (which deep down they must know) and despite the men being equally vile and repulsive - even THEY abscond as soon as they've squeezed the fruitbat dry. Just like a lemon - they squeeze every drop of juice they can out of them, and then chuck them in the bin with not as much as a thank you. No wonder they are so sour and bitter!

Judith, who is one of the very few members who has what they would all love to have : a loving, caring husband who dotes on his wife and their son - and puts them FIRST - reminds them of how putrid their own scummy relationships are. Judith has a wonderful marriage and family; lives in a beautiful home in a beautiful area, and her husband has embraced British culture - for the simple reason he wants to spend all his life with his wife and son - and his life, family and home are now in England. Slightly off-topic, but I have noticed how it's always the intelligent and genuine men who enjoy - and want to - become part of British culture. That isn't to say men like Judith's husband forget their roots - but because they fell in love with a British woman - and are intelligent - they want to involve themselves with the culture and enjoy the parts they like. Unlike the typical fruitbags sponging visa-husbands who, as soon as they step foot on British soil, leg it down to the nearest Turkish coffee shop and kebab house, and has no interest in British culture at all - unless it's a means of making para, para, para.

Judith is also envied because she is intelligent, intellectual, knowledgeable - and can put an argument across, that, besides being unbeatable, is done in such a civilised way, that the fruitbats don't have the same brain power in which to respond. That is why she was banned from TL - the manager is jealous of Judith - and I suspect the said manager felt threatened by Judith's superior intellect and knowledge, and she reminded her (albeit unwittingly) of her many inadequacies.

Of course, it's all very sad in a way, especially as these women's only means of realeasing their pent-up frustration is by bashing out boring old insults on a compter screen. That is their life. And that's why I pity them.

Strawbs

Oh Strawbs, have they been at it again?!! It really is getting beyond boring now.

They just never give up do they?

I can't fathom what it is that makes them think that they have the right to be able to drive you off the internet.

If they can't do it by complaining they think they can bully and harrass you off with their vile words.

These are the same people who go away and set up sites where they are all syrupy sweetness and light. Hard to believe isn't it? It's only under their pseudonyms when they let rip that you see the sort of people that they really are.

As you say Strawbs, it must be hell to be struggling with the level of misery that they do in their daily lives. However, saying such awful things and wishing such dreadful things on people is unforgiveable, not to mention truly worrying and disturbing behaviour.

Thank you for your kind words but really, we are just an ordinary couple/family living a farily ordinary and unremarkable life. We are very happy doing it though.

Why people think that what I say about my marriage is outlandish or in some way far-fectched, or makes me sound smug is beyond me. I think the fact that they think I'm smug tells you far more about them than it ever does about me.

Hi Judith,

Oh, yes, they're still obsessed. They always will be, too - they have such empty, miserable lives and their prospects are very grim indeed. They will just go on, and on, and on - because they have nothing in their lives - and the only way they can release their fury is by spouting venom. Of course, eventually they will burn themselves out - and turn into one of those empty-eyed people you see who wear vacant expressions and appear 'not quite with it'. What a dreadful waste of a life!

They're obviously not of the ilk who count their blessings and are thankful for what they have - they bristle with fury over the fact other people have more than they have, whether it be money, good looks, a happy relationship......they HATE it. They're pig sick with jealousy, and as your character shows in your face, they must all be extremely ugly on the outside. I know for a FACT that some of them are indeed ugly as sin. I've seen their pictures, and people have told me what they look like in real life! Scrunched-faced, hardened women with nastiness dripping from their snarled, down-turned lips. I'm sure they weren't born like that - something turned them into the twisted individuals that they are.

It's quite a joke to think THEY really believe - these low-life scumbags - that they can drive ME off the Internet! Haha! They're insane if they think that! Besides them being a bunch of peasants, with SEVERE emotional issues - they're as THICK as pease pudding! LOL And as bland, too! Boring, bland and insignificant nobodies.

As for them wishing me evil things - I find wishes like that have a habit of backfiring. I have never in my whole life EVER wished ill on anyone - even people such as the vile fruitbats. I just wouldn't wish that on anyone - however much I despised them. And if I was a superstitious type of person - I would feel terrified! Those sort of wishes boomerang.

As for them finding your happy marriage extraordinary - as you very rightly point out - that really speaks volumes about THEIR lives! They obviously have never experienced happiness. Slightly off-topic, but I remember once mentioning some food I'd bought from M&S - and they thought I was bragging! Haha!

No wonder they're prepared to put up with such crappy relationships and be treated like dirt - they don't know what nice things are. It's dreadfully sad.

Strawbs

Just a quickie - as I have to go out and I'm late.

I was going to start a new thread, but I'll have to do it later on today. But do watch out for new thread which looks at cyber bullies who try to intimidate members (MY members) into not posting on here! Top reading - I guarantee you!

I'll go into great detail about it. How this manager has the nerve and audacity to PATRONISE and BULLY members - MY members - into not posting on here. If they do - they shall be banned from her site! Haha! Who cares about her poxy site? It's full of misfits - and is run by misfits!

What gets me is - she had the AUDACITY to SCOLD MY member - for contacting MY other members by PM!!!!!!!!!! Work THAT one out if you will! SHE is telling MY member that she's not allowed to PM MY - MY - members!!! This fat freak of a midget is not even a member here! lol That woman has always suffered from delusions - God knows why! She's a nobody! She doesn't own the WWW!! Hahahaha! She just runs a pathetic little site. She - and her MANAGEMENT TEAM - THE LOOPFRUITS - have discussed this matter in depth! Oh FFS! She's having a laugh! She's just a little midget who thinks she's royalty (maybe because she married a queen!) She works in ADMIN for the PS. She is NOT a probation officer - she is NOT a counsellor - she's nothing. How DARE she intimidate MY members! I intend to report her! She is cyber bullying - and she needs putting in her place!

She is the WORST type of bully going. She puts on that FAKE syrupy concern - but she's filled with bile and hatred. She is SUCH a disturbed, twisted woman. And at her age too - 43! She could be a grandmother, but she's UPSETTING and WORRYING my member. How dare she! How dare she! Just wait till I get back tonight!

Control freaks!

What a sad bunch, and i dont know why they are even bothering really, the mods never post anything on that site thats interesting and some dont post at all!

All they seem really interested in is what you think about members Strawbs, and they dont care at all about the members on TL, just like letting a certain solicitor run the visa boards for a year, and after you brought up fact she was a liar and a big fake, they still let her continue! As they would rather let her go on gaining info or money from members when all they needed to do was find out the true facts and give the women at risk the protection they could have easily had gotten from Gemsgirl via a very easy check.

Says it all really.

She was posting like the clappers on bungs site. Ooooeeeeer!!!!!!!!!

Please note that she was only ever "posting like the clappers" on the private nasty, bitching, coniving and colluding board. Her post count there was into treble figures but you could count the number of posts she put up on the public board on one hand

As far as all the control freakery with this "if you post on that site you can't be on my site" nonsense goes, I really can't get my head around it. Surely people will post where they want to? The WWW is big enough for all manner of sites and as long as people remain civil and keep within the rules why should it bother anyone? Of course, on the face of it it's claimed that it's to do with loyalty and protecting members yet it seems that for a certain someone there are members and then there are members. As we know, not all memebrs are afforded the same privleges and your face would have to fit before you were...

There is one certain member who is quite clearly not thought very highly of at all by the management and they, and other members too, are allowed to openly attack her at will. Even to the extent that one manager was allowed to re-open a thread the other day purely to have a pop at her when what she had to say added absolutely nothing new to the debate. It was simply an out and out personal attack. Nothing whatsoever was made of that though. The carefully drafted "moderation policy" was not invoked - despite the member concerned asking for the comments to be taken down.

I think it's high time that people who are members there and like to pride themselves on having a brain should wake up and smell the roses. It'll never happen though and that in no small part is to do with the fact that most if not all of the active members there are so self absorbed and self obsessed that they simply don't take any notice of what goes on around them. They'd quite happily talk to themselves on a thread! To them that site simply provides them with a platform to spout their relentless drivel about themselves and their relationships. If another numpty occasionally pops up to tell them they're making the right decisions or to offer a few words of advice that's all well and good but if they don't, well, that's OK too. They wouldn't care if the site was run by green martians as long as it was there. They couldn't care less about the famous "ethos" of the site - which events have shown time and time again to be a complete joke.

It's true what you say Teenz, most of the managers there rarely bother with the site unless they pop up to put the boot in from time to time. In fact they know better than anyone how boring it is and that's why they're more intersted in reading this site and in engaging in all the various backroom machinations that go on.

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Hi Teenz,


You're absolutely right - that woman is a control freak. And the reason she behaves like she's running MI5 (rather than a silly little yuku site) is that she has no power in her real life. Running a little forum on the WWW - which absolutely ANYONE can do - seems to give her a sense of importance. And she needs that badly, because she feels inadequate and inferior. She tries to hide it - but most people can see through her.

She's so insecure and unsure about her life and marriage (no bloody wonder!) and she's a mass of insecurities. That's why she behaves like Hyacinth Bucket. She feels really embarrassed about her roots; herself; and her husband. She tries to make out she's a counsellor - but she's not. She's a liar. She did an online course (which she didn't pass)- that's a fact. Same with the way she likes to 'suggest' she's a Probation Officer. She is not. Same with the way she won't elaborate on what kind of engineer 'hubby' is - she can't bear to admit he's not a Civil Engineer, a Marine Engineer or Flight Engineer - if he was she would WRITE THOSE WORDS in all her posts! Be sure!

She must feel so inferior to everyone, and for a woman of her age (almost 43) it seems very odd that she attaches so much importance to who posts where on the web! What does it matter to her?! It's not her business for one thing! She has brainwashed herself into believing she's the only person on the WWW who should be running a Turkish forum! Haha! Her! She doesn't even know that much about Turkey - and BOTH her relationships with Turks are/have been terrible - the previous one and the current one. So she's HARDLY in a position to offer advice when her own life is a big fat flop.

I actually know FAR more about Turkey than that woman does - and I've travelled to far more many places out there too. I lived out there for two years (on and off) and I've been with Ertie two years longer than she's been with the Frock. I also give HONEST advice (like it or lump it - but it's true advice) and I don't ENCOURAGE young girls or vulnerable women to throw their lives away - like she does! She gets a bik kick out of it - I'm telling you. She's nasty.

She's a terrible liar too. All that rubbish about not reading my site - she sent me a PM BEGGING me to be allowed on the private forum I once had on the old Chatters! She's as thick as thieves with the bungalow and that bunch of twisted misfits....she likes to sit back and watch the train crash. Shows how happy she is doesn't it?!

She has a DEEP need to be seen as something special (because in real life she's less than ordinary) and having mad little misfits suck up to her makes her feel important. lol Quite frankly, when she gave MY member an ultimatum - I myself would have told the fat little midget to fuck off. Who the hell does she think she is?!

I have NEVER, NEVER intimidated a member by telling them they can't post on another site. It wouldn't enter my mind to. It's not my business! When Judith was a member on there - along with yourself and various other members (who still are members of that site) I never said to my members that they couldn't post elsewhere! It's outrageous!

What annoys me is the fact that MY member - a member of Chatters - contacted other members of Chatters who had PM'd ME - and because I was unable to reply due my account being closed - MY member very kindly sent a PM to MY members. Then suddenly, Mrs Bouffant - who is NOT a member of Chatters - accused MY member of going through her site's member list and contacting them! When my member informed her that they happened to be members of CHATTERS the arrogant, deluded nutter ignored that, and carried on intimidating and patronising her, and chastising her! It was NOTHING to do with the midget! If MY members happen to be members of her site too - that's STILL none of her business!

Anyway, my member is still going to post on Chatters - so the mad midget can get fucked. I'm sorry for using the F word, Teenz, but I can't think of a better word to describe the way I feel about the muttonhead, and unlike her, Im not so anal that I keep all my emotions clogged up inside of me. She's so anal that she hides her true feelings and thoughts, and she's bloody desperate to be seen as someone she's not, that she even trawls through each and every posts of hers to make sure a typo or spelling mistake never slips through. I don't read her long-winded boring essays these days, but over the years it was very noticeable how she took great pains not to make one teeny weeny spelling mistake. That's how desperate she is to try to present herself in a certain way. EVERYONE - even famous authors make the occasional typo/spelling mistake - that's because we type from the heart - we're not composing an essay for an exam!

You're right, too, about her only being interested in what I think and write. She's not one iota interested in the members of that site, and she DELIBERATELY avoids the threads where a member is acting recklessly - because she wants to watch the train crash. As for Gemsgirl, the midget knew full well that she wasn't a solicitor (although, she is very gullible! AHEM!!) but she allowed her to continue dishing out bad and wrong advice - and people should ask themsleves why she allowed that!

Judith, yes, the midget was indeed posting like the clappers on the bungalow's nasty private board. The manager from the old MSN sites (who the midget fell out with when egotm closed and she set up wags) was also posting on there - thick as thieves those two are again! The old ugly crowd...cookiemonster, mrsattie, strangesandie, crumblychristine, fuglydelimersin, christinewalkden's jellybelly sister, blobbyMuriel, Turtle's wife FatP, the weird old woman marge - they're all bashing away on their keyboards. Bunch of ugly deranged nutters.

As for strangesandie getting a quick booting in, AFTER the thread was closed - sounds like her issues have got worse. I suppose, just like the rest of them, she's desperately unhappy and so takes it out on her keyboard. Of course, JW is the pits - she's despicable - but strangesandie went against their Very Important policies! That's another thing that makes me laugh - the way midge talks about their policies! Oh FFS! And to think she had the bloody AUDACITY to SCOLD and UPSET my member by bullying her! Who the hell does she think she is?!

I remember reading Eamonn Holmes saying how Anthea Turner was the WORST type of bully going. Now, we only have his word for it (although she is very unpopular according to the media and insiders from TV) but he said she bullied in a very sneaky, sly way. She'd be all sweet and syrupy - sometimes put the waterworks on - to get what she wanted. He said underneath that sweet, sickly exterior was a woman as hard as nails and nasty to boot. Well, the midge looks NOTHING like Anthea Turner! Haha! I've seen Anthea Turner in real life and she is stunning (much better than she looks on TV) and she's tall, too. But I digress..........the midge is that kind of bully. In Eamon's words "the worst!" The midge will patronise (will even say she ISN'T pastronising - talk about a give-away! Thicko!) she tries to come across all concerned, caring, sugary......but she is utterly vile.

I intend to do something about her - and her mad cronies.

I'm just biding my time.








Strawbs

Hi Ladies

I would have thought that on a site like TL with several mods that like to keep a tight control over members and posts, why the hell did they let Gemsgirl have free reign over the visa boards, she didnt show anyone any real proof about her job as a solicitor, she stopped the previous visa adviser from posting too, and she never gave proper visa information updates etc just seemed to enjoy giving out the wrong info and getting uptight with anyone that questioned her.

And I know this sounds mean but i honestly wouldnt be suprised if the mods let her on just to let her try to con the women and possibly one or more of them was in on it and was gaining info about the girls private lifes, Something was definatly fishy there.

We've often seen the message in posts to particularly desperate and vulnerable members "you can send me an email if you want to talk hon". I'm sure many trusting, gullible women have done so, not knowing any better, only to have their lives later pulled apart and ridiculed on private "approved members" boards to which only the priveliged few are allowed access - unless of course one of the priveliged numpties presses the wrong button and then the world and his wife can see

I suppose it still goes on today but carefully placed PMs are the preferred method now. The principle remains the same though - wheedling info out of members with a juicy tale to tell under the guise of being a concerned and supportive listening ear and shoulder to cry on. It's a formula that never fails.

There's no way of stopping it because if these women give information about their private lives voluntarily that's their business entirely. Nonetheless, I'd always advise anyone using these sites not to divulge too much and confide only in trusted, long standing real life friends rather than instant cyber ones whose motives in showing concern may be questionable. The cyber world is a very murky one...

The last persons I would want advise from would be a bunch of hateful nutters all screwed up with problems!! These numpty women must be mad to divulge secrets to that bunch of spiteful loonies!

xx